March 05, 2008

Recently, I was confronted with the "compare Rollin's first few years to Reyes first few years".
I was bored so I actually did it.

Rollins
SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS


















2001 Phi 158 656 97 180 29 12 14 54 48 108 46 8 .274 .323 .419 .742
2002 Phi 154 637 82 156 33 10 11 60 54 103 31 13 .245 .306 .380 .686
2003 Phi 156 628 85 165 42 6 8 62 54 113 20 12 .263 .320 .387 .707
2004 Phi 154 657 119 190 43 12 14 73 57 73 30 9 .289 .348 .455 .803
2005 Phi 158 677 115 196 38 11 12 54 47 71 41 6 .290 .338 .431 .769
2006 Phi 158 689 127 191 45 9 25 83 57 80 36 4 .277 .334 .478 .812

The formatting didn't want to work so I manually added these:

Presented As Avg/OB/OBP/OPS
2001 .274 .323 .419 .742
2002 .245 .306 .380 .686
2003 .263 .320 .387 .707
2004 .289 .348 .455 .803
2005 .290 .338 .431 .769

Reyes

SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2003 NYM 69 274 47 84 12 4 5 32 13 36 13 3 .307 .334 .434 .768
2004 NYM 53 220 33 56 16 2 2 14 5 31 19 2 .255 .271 .373 .644
2005 NYM 161 696 99 190 24 17 7 58 27 78 60 15 .273 .300 .386 .686
2006 NYM 153 647 122 194 30 17 19 81 53 81 64 17 .300 .354 .487 .841
2007 NYM 160 681 119 191 36 12 12 57 77 78 78 21 .280 .354 .421 .775

Presented As Avg/OB/OBP/OPS
2003 .307 .334 .434 .768
2004 .255 .271 .373 .644
2005 .273 .300 .386 .686
2006 .300 .354 .487 .841
2007 .280 .354 .421 .775



What exactly am I supposed to be looking at here? I don't see anything that really sticks out at me. There are differences sure but I would say that they are made up for in other areas represented.

Oh well. Just a quick point.

2 comments:

x-nady said...

Reyes has 3 full years in the Bigs. So compare each of their first 3 FULL years. I did not check the stats so i am assuming these numbers are correct, but your OBP category should be SLG.

First 3 Full years in the Bigs:

Reyes: 2005, 2006 & 2007
Rollins 2001, 2003 & 2004

So lets average each 3 year category out (feel free to check my math):

Games & AB's are comparable

RUNS
Reyes: 113
Rollins 88
Winner: REYES

HITS
Reyes: 192
Rollins: 167
Winner: REYES

DOUBLES
Reyes:30
Rollins:35
Winner ROLLINS

TRIPLES
Reyes:15
Rollins:9
Winner: REYES

HOME RUNS
Reyes:13
Rollins;11
Winner: REYES

RBI's
Reyes: 65
Rollins:59
Winner: REYES

WALKS
Reyes: 52
Rollins:52
Winner: TIE

STRIKE OUTS
Reyes: 79
Rollins:108
Winner: REYES

AVG
Reyes: .284
Rollins:.261
Winner; REYES

OBP
Reyes: .336
Rollins:.316
Winner: REYES

SLG
Reyes: .431
Rollins:.395
Winner; REYES

OPS
Reyes: .767
Rollins:.712
Winner: REYES

So aside from Runs and a Tie in Walks, REYES trumps Rollins in EVERY CATEGORY!

Conclusion: Reyes has shown to be better than Rollins when comparing their first 3 years of Ball. Rollins was the MVP 4 years later. So if Reyes continues on this path of growth, Reyes should be an MVP within the next four years. And Finally, according to your ridiculous hypothesis that Reyes is overrated and that Victorino is comparable to Reyes, then Rollins is in fact worser than Victorino.

I Rest MY case.

x-nady said...

Check that:

Aside from Doubles and a Tie in Walks, REYES trumps Rollins in EVERY CATEGORY!